On this Sportfolio program, Tim Hanson, U of M basketball player and former “Minnesota Mr. Basketball,” discusses college basketball and his time as a Gopher. Topics include money in sports, coaches, and recruiting. Hanson also answer listener questions.
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(00:00:00) Hi, I'm J.G. Preston. And this is portfolio here on ksjn 1330. Well, it's final four weekend in college basketball at Kemper arena in Kansas City. Maybe not the four best teams in the country. But for of the best teams anyway are getting together for the NCAA National Tournament semifinals this afternoon in this evening, then the championship game Monday night all of which doesn't have a whole lot to do with our guests, but I thought it was a convenient excuse to talk about college basketball and look back on the last four years at the University of Minnesota with Tim Hansen former Minnesota high school. Mr. Basketball from Prior Lake who spent the last four years at the U of M and kind of fill us in on what's in the store for the future for him. And what's been going on at the you for the last four years here its portfolio This has nothing to do with basketball. But Tim did you watch the channel 11 news last night at ten o'clock. Did you see the hockey dealer? Well done. The their April Fool's joke at the end. Did you see that? I was starting to buy it for a second the Winfield Bernanke trade or whatever. It was pathetic. Okay. I was watching this. I never watched it 10 o'clock news for some unknown reason. I just never watch TV news period but my best friend calls me up at 10:35 last night. He's a biggest twins fan ever born. He is in complete and utter shock and he tells me it just had it on Channel 11 the hand advantage over the copy right there on the screen. He said this whole situ breast said, they traded romansky and straker and Lowry to the Yankees for Winfield and Charles Hudson. I'm sitting here going holy God that macphail plays a pretty close to the vest. You know, we had no inkling that this was going to happen, but it made it made sense. I mean the Yankees are trying to dump Winfield. George is really Mad at him about this book and this was a plausible sounding deal that was and I spent like the next hour and a half of my life because the various jobs, I do that. We're all impacted by this trade not the least of which is I do a radio commentary at 6:45 in the morning, which I normally record when I'm awake the day before except now, I'm going to have to talk about this brass key for Winfield trade. So I had to sit down and try to make sense of this deal and right up this beautiful crafted coherent commentary about what it meant for the Twins and welcome back when feel I mean, I spent an hour and a half on this then I got up at six o'clock this morning so I could actually do it on the air. I went out to the mail the paper box and got the paper expecting to see you know, big color picture Dave Winfield on the front of the Star Tribune. No picture no story Gophers lose hockey. I knew that. Okay North Stars lose fine. I can live with that. I turn the sports page. There's nothing about this for Nancy from infiltrate I get in the house and I'm like, I'm like despondent. I'm like what is going on? So so I turn on the radio is nothing on the radio, but this trade what's going on, then it finally Here's the thick head here. Didn't that yesterday was April 1st? And this just might have been somebody sick idea of an April Fool's joke. So turns out that's what it was. I guess you must have seen you've watched it long enough to understood to hear him say that it was an April Fool's pretty tough to get me to bite on April Fool's jokes anyway, because I was born on April 1st. Oh really? So you've heard them all heard him on I'm pretty sure I stand on my toes. I'm ready for about anything under the first happy birthday. Sorry we missed that but my friend Steve just Panic completely. He did not wait the extra 15 seconds and I guess the I guess the anchor people did not know we're not prepared for this and so like they were like stunned and on believe how they had them all biting and Randy favor, I guess was to pulled it off great. He did so he did a good job with it. So so Steve knowing that I would want to know this right away didn't wait 15 seconds for the for cheers to come on before he called me up. He had to call me up right away. And so I spent that's okay time to worry about them. So I had to spend the next hour and a half of my life and then an hour and a half this morning in utter panic over this. I'm so mad eleven who cares don't do this to us anymore. Don't play with my friends head you can mess with my head if you want to but maybe I just gotta tell my friend Steve not to watch channel 11 anymore. I'm sorry folks. I had to get this off my chest because this has been like the major factor in my life for the past few days. Well Tim, how are you? I'm pretty good. Pretty good. Tim. Anson is with us on Sports polio. We just got back from an exciting spring break and how far south did you go to our Lake 20 miles in Fort Lauderdale this year? I don't know. I didn't want to spend that 500 bucks this year. So we're gonna get home we're going to Tim is Big Break on the radio today Hansen has made claims to have wanted to get in this business in the past. So since he seems to handle himself pretty well in a conversation. We thought we'd get on and talk about college basketball today talk about go for basketball and throw the phone lines open. Do you as well two two seven six thousand is our number here on sport folio. That's right. Isn't it? David? David O'Neill sitting by waiting to take your telephone calls 2276 thousand if you have a question about college hoops were about to go fish for Tim Hansen would be delighted to hear from you. And as always if you have a question binding Don't really care what you asked we may not answer it. We don't really care what you asked free country to 276 thousand phone number anyway on sport folio knowing how this program usually works. No one is listening right now and no one will listen until 12:30 and certainly no one will call until 12:30 and then about five minutes to one five minutes before the program gets done. They'll be six phone calls here and we're not going to we're not going to get to any of them though. Just a little friendly advice. If you really want to talk to Tim hands on the radio. You better do it early to be guaranteed your spot 2276 thousand. Well Tim since we do have this final four excuse for a conversation that they had the phones are ringing it's good. You people are taking advantage of this. We got the two games this afternoon coming up. We got Duke cancers in the first game and got Arizona, Oklahoma and the second. Let's hear your your expert analysis Tim. What do you you got a winner picked in this thing? Well, I haven't really picked a winner right in the hole tournament all year. So then why not go with Kansas? What the heck? Yeah, then I don't look bad if they lose. So take Kansas and Danny Manning. Well, yeah, I mean there is there are some pretty spectacular players in this tournament. This is ple it down at Arizona can certainly play with Anybody but Manning, I mean there's nothing like Danny Manning. He seems like the kind of guy who could single-handedly for two games when this tournament. Yeah, he's a great player. You know, he's been a great player for four years. He scored about 2,500 points. So you got to give him the benefit of the doubt and think he can maybe pull up Miracle upset Victory. He said she's such an unselfish ballplayer. But mainly I'm there's nothing he can't do on the court God he fires up those three-pointers. Yeah, he can handle the ball. He can--he 611 he can Rebound with anybody. He's a tough tough ballplayer. I think he's gonna be even better Pro probably really once the once he gets away from the college zones. Yeah. He's been you know, boxing one and double-teamed all year. So once he plays man man offense man-to-man defense in the NBA, I think he's just going to be even better. You see much Arizona this year at all. They've been number one. Most two seasons. Yeah. I saw quite a bit of them. They're pretty impressive to it that probably the team to beat and I you know, I would say that if I had to bet money or anything I'd take care of Zona, but I just I was really impressed their game against North Carolina. That was that was something they got five outstanding players not just one or two, so they're gonna be awful tough. B-but I Oklahoma's a pretty exciting bunch to and if they get hot and and start shooting the ball while the way they run and Gun, you know, they could they could be a great game. They certainly got the attitude for a national champion. Don't they think they're talking Us boy, I sure do so does Arizona, you know, so it'll be interesting semifinal matchup there safely and seeing the sales column this morning that his close personal friend. Bobby Knight was picking Oklahoma because of their defense. Yeah, that's you know, I guess whatever Bobby says said Prince God knows this is the only when Bobby says it to us we might as well hear it makes a copy. I guess we got some caller standing by to talk to Tim Hanson Iran's portfolio. Tim Hanson who's now goes by the category former go for basketball star hung up the sneakers here and have a chance to talk with him on sport folio here on ksjn 1332 276 thousands of phone number will go to Minneapolis trip. How are you? (00:07:36) Okay, (00:07:37) you're on trip. Go ahead. a trip are you hear this? Okay trip. No I can't. Oh, can you hear on the telephone? Yeah. Okay. There you go. That's we just had to flip a switch. No big deal. Well, go ahead Tim. Listen (00:07:58) could be done about reducing the pressure of college recruiting and the ccne anything bad about (00:08:05) it. Yeah. It's interesting that you ask me that because I do have some pretty strong opinions about college basketball. I think that that they should take college basketball off TV. And now you serious. Yeah, I am it makes a lot of money for the colleges and everything but it's maybe not take it off TV, but they should limit how many times you can be on national TV because it's just it's unfair for the University of Minnesota to try and compete with North Carolina because they're on national TV 9 times a year and we're not on National when we were on national TV once this year and they should maybe put a limit that you know, maybe each University can be on national TV say three times in a year and try and spread it around a little more because the money that these schools that are on TVs make and Cause them to build 25 thousand seat Arena has that are you know, state-of-the-art and you know, we're still playing at Williams Arena and it's real tough to bring in one of the top recruits in the country and let him look at Williams Arena and then he goes to Iowa or to North Carolina and sees these new Arena. So I think they should limit the number of TV appearances and and try and spread the TV around a little bit. Of course the problem with that now is you know, the the legal problems at the NCAA faces in trying to represent the member institutions, you know, it used to be when I was unquestioned the NCAA had the authority over broadcast revenues they could parcel that and I think I don't know about basketball so much. I'm sure they did but I know in football they really, you know, held the line on a maximum number of appearances. But when since the courts are throwing out stuff out the window, it's kind of every school for itself every conference for yourself and for itself. I mean the everybody sees this as a great big Golden Goose and nobody seems willing to kill it. Yeah, that's you know it damn sure it'll never happen. But I just think that would be a pretty pretty nice interesting solution for from from the athletes point of view. The high school senior is a talented basketball player. I mean I know in your case you were the the number one high school player in Minnesota your senior year. And did you recruit to Minnesota early? Did you go in the fall signing period I didn't sign early but I gave him a verbal commitment, you know like in January but I visited Arizona for example in Montana State and and it was interesting some other schools. But you know, it came down to wanting to stay home and play in the Big Ten. I mean in your case. Did you find that there were was it it was at a bad experience of recruiting experience having to feel the phone calls and it gets a little annoying, you know, it's pretty fabulous for a while for the first couple of months, you know, it's unbelievable to have people calling and being so interested in and paying so much attention to you. But after a while when you start you start seeing through some of the recruiters and whatnot and it gets a little annoying and you know, you wanted to wind down and just concentrate on your basketball season. I'm sure once you especially when you get into your into your high school season that they have to practice or play at night and then come back and either take phone calls or read letters or whatever. I can see where that would get old kind of quickly it should Does anything come to your mind Tim about trying to address some of those things and maybe make it a little more Humane for the thing I School playing since then they've put in some new rules where they have more stricter periods where recruiters can be in contact with kids and it might make it a little easier for the kids and I think a lot has been said about it and and kids are starting to know they're going to say hey, I'm not going to take any calls after 10 o'clock. And you know, if you want to talk to me again, I have to call my high school coach and everything like that. So I think a lots been done and it's probably not as big a problem as it used to be. Of course, then you know there there's the argument that that's another situation that leads to the rich getting richer, you know, if you if you cut down the the time available for recruiting then sure everybody knows about the North Carolina's and the Arizona's and the Indiana's but you know, the the Minnesota's and the other schools maybe that are trying to build a program don't have as much time to try to get their foot in the door. So, you know the cycle perpetuates itself. Yeah, that's true. I'm still I'm still not convinced that you know, maybe the high school student athlete. Better off that way, but you could certainly see the potential to widen the gap between the Haves and the Have Nots 2276 thousand is our phone number on sport folio. I'm J.G. Preston and former Gopher basketball player. Tim Hansen is with us to to 76 thousand will go to Arden Hills Bob. Hello there. (00:11:58) Well, I had a couple comments and I can finish with a basketball comment, but I'm dying to comment on April Fool's joke. Yeah, please do not trip had you there but I saw the channel 11 sports news last night and my first reaction was this is an April Fool's joke and then I started to believe it because it's so logical. (00:12:23) Oh, yeah, you know if they made it like crispy Taro in three of Carl pulley has used wallets for Dave Winfield. I mean, nobody would have bought that but you know, this was a deal that actually made sense from both sides. (00:12:32) Yeah. It was really good. But I think your friend also return the favor to you. I doubt I mean, oh no Cena. (00:12:41) Oh, believe me. No. I called him back this. He was Furious. He was just furious. Oh, yeah, no. No, he is such a die-hard twins fan that as soon as he heard this his mind and heart went into overdrive and and he really I mean I could hear the cheers music playing in the background when he called me up. He literally did not just completely tuned out he was so befuddled that point. He's matter and I am (00:13:01) well, yeah would have been a fairly decent trade all the Winfield. I mean he can't be has been a years. How old (00:13:09) is 36? Yeah, but you know, I think right now he's a better ballplayer in Bernanke and while one field not going to get any better. Neither is Bruno. (00:13:15) Yeah Bruno is a good ballplayer of time, but he's a little bit streaky as (00:13:20) if they could make that deal. I really think 488 that to put them over the top and not some some money though. Yeah. That's the other thing. That's why I really wondered about that because I mean they've been happy to just get rid of the Royce Molly's in The Gorge Frazier's and try to save a little bit of money that way and all of a sudden the pickup Winfield's contract and frankly Charles Hudson's making a nice loaded 02, you know for a guy who hasn't really done a whole lot. He's making a lot more in the striker is I had I was looking forward to getting on the phone with mr. Macphail this morning and finding out about (00:13:48) that. I haven't been following it too much but baseball our final I'm glad you had at least a little bit while comment here with season coming up and oh, you're quite a fan of (00:13:58) baseball stick around we got we got some big baseball shows coming up the next two weeks. We got Bill James from the baseball abstract coming on next week. And then Roger Angell from The New Yorker will be on in two weeks. (00:14:08) So what does this very space to subscribe to the sporting news? And I said a subscription to my dad who's older man at this point and he doesn't have a whole lot to do with this time, but I thought great idea Cinema has been to sporting news. He won't have anything else to do. Hmm, but I've been a little disappointed in the sporting news. I get a lot of repeat stuff that I've seen and you know, I'm kind of looking for those good stories that really give you some meat and I don't see it on baseball Maybe. Be there during the season (00:14:44) know I've kind of Fallen away from the sporting news. I mean, I used to be a I was growing up in the late 60s and early 70s. I mean I was a subscriber and got it and devoured it every week and that papers changed hands and they've really just kind of water the thing (00:14:57) down. I kind of felt I was disappointed. Yeah, (00:15:01) they do more Sports, you know used to be such a heavily baseball paper that you're a baseball fan was great and now they try to do everything and and it's not good and you're right, especially locally oriented stuff. You know, they have they have guys that are on covering a beat around here in another city is under (00:15:16) contract (00:15:18) or sure sure how you not good? But yeah, you're not going to get any new in the sporting (00:15:23) news my baby at my basketball comment. I I was raised in Madison Wisconsin and it's kind of interesting how they struggled on there to get a program started and couple comments. I think they have a very good coach now as far as coaching goes Yoder. Yeah, I seen him. Actually, I think he gets a lot out of the guys. He's got we shouldn't everybody though coach in that way, but he doesn't seem to be able to get the big players and that holds him back and I'll make one other comment about Wisconsin. They're experimenting Now using the Dane County Coliseum, which is the place they play hockey. It only seats seven eight (00:16:06) thousand things. I think they're getting close to nine for basketball but not but not quite that many. Yeah the frankly, you know, they haven't been drawing in the field house. (00:16:14) Yeah, you know, it's I don't know it's kind of sad that people aren't coming because they really don't have a winner and they've it's been so long with they haven't had a winner that they've really killed the basketball fan down there and they're really they had some good years. Hmm. I was in the field house wants as a boy when they filled it for and Ohio State game why o.o state had 155 straight or something 52 straight? And that was the game that Wisconsin beat them (00:16:45) all back in the back in the Lucas days. (00:16:46) Huh? Wisconsin's a great upset team. They never seem to win the league but but they can share upset teams when they're not looking for it too. Anyway, it's interesting the the news reports automatization. My folks sometimes send me a few things are that the ratings at the Coliseum are not that great. They've pulled the fans and they don't think it's a very good atmosphere for basketball and if they follow the ratings from what I've read, they have to stay in the field (00:17:18) house. Let's bet that around with the two-man sniper little bit. Tim you guys played down in Dane County Dane County Coliseum this year, you'd always played at the field house before that. What kind of place whether for basketball? Well, it's I don't know. It was a lot like a smaller version of it's a pretty nice building but it's smaller and I mean, it's pretty new buildings. Well, yeah, 20 25 years old. It's I think they should probably move there because the field house is is old and that's Really in tough shape, you know visiting locker room and that'll fieldhouse's is in tough shape. I think it's worse than are visiting locker room and ours is bad. So, you know, it's a lot of lot better than the field house and I would recommend them moving there. And as far as Kochi odor you were talking about Coach Yoda. I respect coach zo Darla and I agree that he gets a lot out of his players, but he has a hard time recruiting to and he doesn't have a building to bring these kids into when he doesn't have an established winner. So I'd agree that I think he's a pretty decent coach and he does a pretty good job, but he needs he needs some facilities. I mean you you think sometimes with Minnesota basketball that we've seen some tough times but heck the Gophers, you know, I mean, they've want to a Big Ten as recently as 82 they've been in postseason play since then, I mean, it's it's not a lot compared to a lot of schools, but good grave you go down to Madison don't think they've had a winning season in the Big Ten going back 15 years or more in a while. That's that's a long dry spell and it's funny too because you know Milwaukee right down the road is not a bad basketball town Chicago is a very easy trip and goodness knows there's a just a ton of basketball players in the Area, you know, they've got to compete against Marquette and they've got to compete against Illinois and and plenty of other Indiana recruit Chicago heavily. And so it's not like they've got it all to themselves, but there's enough there where you know, you wonder if it's gone this long what it would take to ever turn that program around. Yeah. They had did they did get Trend Jackson and Danny Jones are both from from Illinois and transform Chicago Bolingbrook, Illinois, and Danny Jones is from Rockford, so they're going down there and they're working hard they're and and maybe they're starting to pull some players out of there's a couple good ballplayers right there. Those are two of the best in the Big Ten if those are your two best ballplayers you could go places, but boy, you need to have better Supporting Cast they've been able to get well Bob. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it two two seven six thousand is our phone number here on sport folio with my guest team Hansen 22 minutes after 12 o'clock. I'm J.G. Preston, and we'll go back to the phones and go to st. Paul. Hi Bruce. (00:19:30) I did just kind of a two-part question for Tim shoot. He grew up in Brooklyn playing Prior Lake played under Dutcher. I believe Williams to and clam. A kid from Minnesota obviously Minnesota recruits quite a few black athletes to play basketball. I was wondering if you found any difference playing under both the coaches in high school Williams and Haskins basically, was there a difference playing under a black coach and what future he sees 44 Haskins is a coach and and his direction that he's taking the program. I'll hang up and listen (00:20:05) good questions. Well, first of all, I didn't I didn't really find any difference between the white and black thing and you know, I would certainly say that they never played any favorites and I don't think dr. Did either and and I don't think there's any racial turmoil any racial controversy as far as playing for a by coach or playing for a white Coach and everything and I never noticed a difference and I you know, I really enjoyed playing for for Jimmy Williams in the time. He was here course, you know, there was only five players so, you know, you didn't have to worry about playing time. But but you know, I really enjoyed playing with him and Dutch. I enjoyed and Coach Haskins was a was an experience to so I enjoyed playing for all three and as far as the program now, You know, they still haven't they haven't signed that program Turner yet. And until they do you know, I think they're going to struggle and you know, I wish him all the best and I'd love to see him, you know getting the ncaa's next year. But you know, I look around the Big Ten and boy there's some players in the Big 10, and we really haven't got the program Turner. I think that Melvin Newburn has the ability to be one and Willie Burton is getting close to that level and you know Richard coffee led the Big Ten and rebounding so there's definitely a core there. Those are all sophomore players and their go only going to get better but I think we still were still that that one player with that intangible, you know quality that's going to put him over the edge and get him in the tournament. You know, there's teams like Ohio State just was runner-up in the NIT and they've got two of the best kids in the country coming in that were proposition 48 last year in Michigan's got all that Talent, Illinois, Iowa has got marble and all the boys come and be John Armstrong and you know, I just it's tough to see the Gophers. Where does it where does it did come in next year? So, you know not saying it. And happened because you know, like I say if they work hard over the summer there's there's a core of talent there and if I think somehow if they could land that point guard. Yeah I said I mean if you can get away I think these days in the big tent without the great Center, please they haven't got the great point guard, Illinois got away with it this who they didn't have a true Center and you know crew Java but he wasn't he wasn't much but it's the point guard. I think that's the key to the whole team and and array Gaffney is is an outstanding player but he's a better shooting guard that he was a point guard and he'd be the first to admit that a juror and you know, you look at Temple. I mean John Cheney was able to turn that thing around with Mark making I mean, here's a guy who was a great great high school basketball player who whether it was Cheney personally to the to a great extent or whatever decided he'd go to Temple University which had been a good basketball program and almost single-handedly with a lot of other talented teammates. He made it a great basketball program. That's that's the that's the kind of that's the kind of hungry. He's that's the type of he has the intangible qualities to the guy that will take the clutch shot and make it and things like that that Minnesota I just I think has right now and if they could land that one player that could put him over the edge because there's certainly some Talent there, you know claim a whole lot better than I do but just my observations of him, I'm really impressed by him as a bench coach. He really seems like a top-flight bench coach. I'm impressed by him as a guy Justin, you know as a person to deal with I've got to think that if he were at a school that had any kind of natural recruiting base or natural recruiting tradition that with his with his personality and his basketball smarts that he would have no problem putting together a top 20 program. Oh, I think you know if he had a better base to recruit from you keep all the home state kids. He's done it so far. He's kept Kevin Lynch and he's getting Bob Martin, you know, there might not be any other players in the state with the vision one abilities. At least he got the ones that probably do have it and he can't afford to let my life. He got Bret McNeil to go to Western Kentucky and 01 and Brett could have came to Minnesota, but you know, you're right there and he works hard and he works hard at recruiting and his assistants are gone all year, but it's really tough to Kids that come up here what kind of thing what were the first things you notice differently about the program after clam took over? Well, it's the first thing I noticed was just his intensity and you know coach touch. It was very intense also, but what coach Haskins is loud about his intensity, he's not afraid of really getting on your button and chewing on it for a while. He's real intense and practices practices are just unbelievable. And that's a obvious the obvious difference is just as intensity. Just you know, he's a hard-working guy and he wants his players to be hard-working players, you know, he doesn't let the media watch his practices and it's not because he's afraid they're going to steal any great playing secrets about he's pretty upfront. He just doesn't want the media to hear what he says during practice. He doesn't want anybody in there. It's just he just wants it to be, you know, the players and the coaches and he thinks that's how you get the most things done. I think he's right. I mean, do you feel like that kind of that kind of coaching pulled your game up a little bit. I mean, is that is that bring you present a challenge at you? Rise to yeah, I think I responded pretty well to the way he handled me. You know, he wasn't necessarily one of his whipping boys. But you know, I was I had my turns in a doghouse too. So, you know, I it it makes you take your game to a different level to 276 thousands our phone number here on sport folio. I'm J.G. Preston along with former go for basketball player. Tim Hanson talk Hoops with you the day two two seven six thousand will go to New Brighton now very hello. (00:25:10) How are you today? Very good. Thanks. Good if I might just mention a few thoughts that I've had one Schoolboy basketball here in Minnesota. I've been living here for five years and you can tell by the funny way. I talk. I'm an (00:25:23) easterner. You know II never would have guessed it be better (00:25:27) and easterners reaction to Schoolboy basketball. Here is my God. What is this? Very impressed with hockey hockey is an unknown quantity quantity to us back there, but in talking to several people One Restaurant to different places you'll wonder to what degree School boys basketball could be improved and I think the solution is relatively simple if anyone is willing to go the route I noticed in a paper advertising Sports Camps last week in the paper Hockey Camp Hockey Camp Hockey Camp Hockey Camp that there must have been 20 camps listed and one was a basketball camp if I was a high school coach and wanted a state champion. What I would do was take my kids for a 10-week summer vacation to Chicago or Detroit or New York or Philadelphia to play 10 weeks of school yard basketball and I think those kids in 10 weeks of school yard basketball in those cities will learn more basketball than three or four years of high school coaching can accomplish for them here. Because that's the nature of the game. It's an individual game the coaching and basketball is to take a kid who's acquired skills and channel the skills in the direction rather than hockey. Were you teach the skills from a very young age or at least that's my impression. Of course, I drive around the city's I see no kids in the street or anywhere playing basketball. I see the my roller skates playing hockey, which is fine. That's the game but there must be some kids who are serious about basketball and unless you get them into that competition where they can learn from their peers. I don't I don't think it's ever going to improve. What's your reaction to those (00:27:20) done? Certainly I can see where that would make a great difference in somebody's game but frankly, I think the the Practical problem there is footing the bill. I mean, you know for a for a summer out of town, you know, just getting kids housed and fed. If nothing else there. I'm also the we're in process of evolution in the High School league restrictions to as to how much a coach can be involved with his with his high school players and and summer activities that mayor Not be relevant here. But well it will Tim you've I mean you've grown up as a basketball player in his State and I think how do you respond to what Barry's getting at there? Well, he's got a good point, you know, it's not realistic to take ten kids to Chicago for the summer unless you're pretty wealthy coach and you know, but that was one of the keys to improve in my game and taking my game to the division one level was I went to the city I'd go over to North High and I played in the Pillsbury league with with a lot of college players and a lot of City players and you do learn a lot of tricks and you do learn you learn more in a week playing at North High than you learn all year playing in Prior Lake really it's just they played a little different and there's different rules and things are done a little differently. You don't shoot jump shots over there because that's just not the way it's done it but it takes the ball to the basket and that was the weakest part of my game. So I went over there. I took the ball to the back, you know, it's interesting and I find that really interesting that he drives around and sees hockey and doesn't see basketball and Ever I very rarely see a group of kids playing basketball. You might see a kid shooting in his driveway by himself, but sure. Yeah, I guess it's just yeah the nature of the state is to play hockey. And I mean, I think that's the biggest reason why all the really prominent basketball players that have come out of the state of been big guys because frankly they've never been tempted to play hockey. I'm sure you weren't no I never I never put on skates. So I guess most of the people 6-foot to say or under are playing hockey. So mmm the better athletes not you know, not unanimously but sure are for the most part up here hockey and it's just it's even hard to get ten people to play because you know, They have other things to do. Hmm. (00:29:19) I remember when I was a kid in Philadelphia, you can only play a 20-point game because they're always five kids waiting in lines play the winner of the game and it probably don't endlessly and unless you unless you played your heart out to win that game so you could stay for another 20 points that you killed yourself to stay on the (00:29:34) court certainly true and it's too bad. It's not like that. It makes a huge difference. Yeah, I agree with you that way Barry it would make a big difference. (00:29:41) Thank you very much. Appreciate it. (00:29:44) It's 27 minutes before one o'clock here on sport folio. I'm J.G. Preston along with Tim Hansen here on ksjn 1330. Our phone number of your calls with questions or comments for Tim is 2276 thousand and we'll be right back and get back to the phones right after this. Good afternoon. This is Mark heisted reminding you of the week in review comes up at 1 o'clock this afternoon here on ksjn 1330 between 1:00 and 3:00 this afternoon. We'll review for you the top news stories of the past week both around the world and around the Twin Cities then at 3 o'clock on the best of midday. We will reach back to Tuesday's. Noon hour feature to bring you coverage of a national Press Club appearance by former, California Congressman. Paul McCloskey. That's all coming up this afternoon here on ksjn 1330. Our phone number once again is 2276 thousand here on sport folio and we'll get ready to go to st. Louis Park David. Hi. Thanks for (00:30:35) waiting. Thank you for having the show. I just wanted to know how Tim felt when he first came into a strong program and a Dutcher then to the four years at deteriorated and I want to know is reactions to it. (00:30:48) I can't believe that when you came to the university Tim the you thought you go for years without at least playing in postseason somewhere along the line. I definitely didn't I thought would be in the ncaa's probably every year and I to this day I think we would have been coming in my freshman year. I came in with Tad Alexander Mitchell and George Williams and I recruiting class was rated as high as ninth in the country by a lot of different poles were in the top 20 every poll from anywhere from 9 to 20 and and we just had an impressive group and we had some some players already here and I thought you know, I thought for sure maybe not the first year because Tommy Davis was our only senior and not too much experience, but I thought we were actually we could be in an IT team and where I believe we were about 11 and 6 when when Mitch had his first Run in with the law and and then tied did later. So we had a lot of talent. I thought going into my sophomore year. I thought we were going to be a real team to beat in the Big Ten and and we lost our first three games and then we won three in a row including a win over Michigan and they were 16 and 01 rated number one in the country and USA Today on Franklin. That was at the time. I mean, it was so quickly overshadowed by what happened that same week when in the same week a week later, but that was I mean that was one of the great wins in history that go for program and that team that team there had had enough talent to maybe not win the Big Ten but be right in the thick of the race and I think there was no doubt that that year we had been playing in the Metrodome in the NCAA regionals. I'm sure they would have put us in our home court to fill that place up and I think we could have won that region with a little home crowd Advantage, you know, it wasn't that many quality teams up there and I think maybe North Carolina State and Iowa State came out of there or something those were the ones and you know, Michigan was in it, but they got beaten we had proven earlier that we could beat them and I thought we had a great. Great deal of talent then. Of course it all it all went downhill that weekend in Madison. And and from there we had to rebuild the program totally. So it was it was a little tough going into my junior year knowing that there wasn't really much of a chance of playing in the NCAA and maybe a miracle to get in the NIT and even this year to you know, we were better and we knew were going to be better but we didn't we weren't too sure that it was going to be good enough. So I mean, you know, the great thing is the efforts always been there the last two years. I've always been impressed by watching to go for teams play especially at home. I mean, it has been no, let me say how we usually lay it on the line pretty good, but we're just, you know, the spirit is willing but the flesh is not always it's not as a not ask I mean hindsight is easy to him, but could what have happened to Madison been avoided I mean, can you looking back what could have changed that what could have made that team watching? It probably could have been avoided you know that we had a lot of problems on that team and You know, it wasn't a close team at all and it was some different personalities involved. But I think that that could have been avoided you know with a little more discipline from the from the coaching and that's just the way coach Dodger was and he wasn't a real strict disciplinarian. He was he was a good basketball coach and he thought that he should let men be men and I guess most of us weren't men then what it boiled down to her still 18 19 20 years old still growing up still maturing and and made some bad decisions during that time. So he possibly could have been avoided but you know, I guess it just happened. Yeah. Well, then you turned around and played a game that even know where she had of the Michigan game. I mean the game that without any doubt was the greatest game I've ever seen a Gopher basketball team play the Ohio State game right after that when when the iron five went out and with with no apparent chance of even staying in the game was able to beat the Buckeyes won Ohio State had a great team. I mean they had Dennis Hobson was a first-round draft pick Brad sellers was a first-round draft pick and to this day. It back and it just doesn't make sense having lived through that must be a great memory was emotion in that building that night was incredible. That was one of the finest memories I have along with that a week later. We beat Iowa. Mmm, and I was second the Big 10 at the time and had spanked as pretty good earlier in the year. So along with those two games were just incredible and then she asked he got sick and we couldn't compete anymore. That's all she wrote The Iron fire behind the iron for is it two two seven six thousand our phone number here on sport folio. Tim Hansen is with us talking about go for basketball college basketball, whatever else you got on your mind will go to Coon Rapids next Rod. Hi. Thanks for calling. (00:34:59) I have a comment more in parallel to the gentleman said about playground ball. It was a good game. We used to play 35 years ago in the small towns called work up in baseball and now with little league and organized ball. The marginal player doesn't get a chance to play ball anymore. And it seems like uh, like things like this a Cause All in all of the softball and baseball organized. There's a coach in (00:35:28) there. See what you're getting the (00:35:29) hang and you never you never get up to bat. I remember in the game of work up if the fella hit the ball to you. Well, you traded places with the batter and you were suddenly the batter rather than outfielder. Mmm. That's about that's about my comment. (00:35:44) Yeah. I mean have you found that to be true in basketball team to the organization goes down to such a low wage that it really becomes hard for kids to play. It's little different and thing that kills me is in most cases. The kid's dad is coaching. There's always a kid's dad that's good. So that kids going to play uh-huh. He's gonna have a good friend on the team and that kids can and it's not necessarily fair, you know sure my dad never coached me button, you know, I played on teams where maybe my best friend's dad was coaching or whatever and maybe I wasn't the best player but I always played and it just you know, there was a little little things that showed in worked out and everybody should have got a chance to play in and I guess I hope it's better now. The in a little leagues and whatnot. But especially with hockey Minnesota the pressure to win even when you're at the Peewee level is unbelievable him the little midget teams. They want to win the State title and go to Canada and Europe and play hockey and they get to do that when they win the State title. So I'm sure you know, it should all be they should let everybody playing that it shouldn't be so big pressure situation, but I guess it is it's really difficult to develop skills in a sport when they're there when there's a lot of emphasis placed on actual structured competition because when heck physically kids just develop at different rates. I mean a lot of kids aren't ready to play their best read some of their ten some of the worst Junior High athletes I've ever seen turned out to be good real good eye is really they just you know, they just matured a little later develop their coordination their skills little later so that you get turned off by The Game and stop playing or whatever reason and then when you quit the game, what do you do then, you know, he started smoking and chasing girls or what? I don't know what you doing, you know because you never stop playing don't know. Yeah, I guess it's coming coming up next winter with the I'm you're not wearing a uniform somewhere. I think it's going to be a strange feeling. I'm sure I'll get the itch and join some men's league team or something. But there's a lot of good things to you know, my body is taken a pretty good beating and I got a lot of aches and pains and maybe a year off. I'll feel a lot better when I get up in the morning. So I guess there's a lot of pros and cons when you came to the you you know, mr. Basketball the great High School credentials. Did did you think very much about a pro career for someone I sure did I thought I think everybody thinks when they get a scholarship to division one. Oh boy. Maybe I can go have a good career and maybe get a shot and then ba you find out pretty quick what it's like and I found out right away because Tommy Davis to me was one of the greatest college players that Minnesota has ever had. I think he's fourth and he didn't make it he still plugging away. Yeah, and he still probably will make it with one of these expansion teams, but and he was he kicked my butt every day and practicing. Well that was pretty rude awakening. I have web better. Just trying to work and get some playing time with his college team and not worry about anything farther than that. You have you thought about I mean Europe Australia some of these places have been contact a little bit and not not at the elite team level in Europe where they make pretty good money. Yeah at the more moderate level where the pay is. It's okay, and it's a good living but to go overseas and live by myself for that kind of money, which I could make if I got a decent kind of job over here just it isn't appealing to me too much to to 76 thousands our phone number here on sport folio and bite your calls for Tim Hanson here on ksjn 1330 go to South Minneapolis Jim. Thanks for calling. (00:38:55) Good afternoon. I'm enjoying the show and I have a comment and two questions. Okay, we'll take them in order first comment is for Tim and I want to congratulate him on hanging in there for four years and some really difficult times for the basketball team. I'm uh, I'm a bit of a all around sports fan, but I follow the team and and I want to congratulate him and the two questions one is kind of parenthetical doesn't have to do with basketball. And the second one is for Tim. The first one is where is Lake Superior State? I'm frustrated reading the best friend. And I mean, is it the middle of Lake Superior (00:39:33) what it's insu Saint Marie, Michigan, (00:39:35) so st. Marie. Okay. Well it is on Lake Superior. Nobody ever mentions that fact and being a small school at I thought that should be no (00:39:42) Nick a couple real Powers playing with that hockey championship has Lake Superior State and (00:39:46) 710. Well, you know, it says something for the for the small schools, although maybe behind that there's another story but (00:39:52) and here's my parenthetical coming to your parenthetical comment Jim is that in the last game of the regular season? St. Cloud State beat Lake Superior State (00:40:00) that right? Yep. St. Cloud State. Well II just (00:40:04) need a Huskies the mythical National Champion (00:40:06) future son-in-law that goes to st. Cloud State. He's not a hockey. He's not a hockey player, but he did in high school. So that's interesting for me too. Now the basketball the second question is for Tim. Could you could you kind of analyze the potential of Kevin Lynch and his next three years at the University? If Minnesota since he has going to perhaps the only home grown boy. (00:40:27) Well Kevin's got a lot of ability Kevin's and an exception to the Minnesota player the way I see it. I think you know, we mentioned earlier that most of the division one players that come out of this state are big man and and Kevin's about 65 and he's got exceptional leaping ability and exceptional quickness. And and I think when he when he gets a little more aggressive, I think he's going to be a great player. You know, I know it when I was a freshman, you know, there's a lot of a lot of things you don't understand you're trying to learn so so Kevin probably learned a lot this year because he got a lot of playing time and he had some really some really good games and when he learns to be more aggressive, especially offensively and he stops following as much as he falls and I think he's going to be a real quality player and he could be he could be the point guard because he's got that kind of cord sense and and he knows and he understands the game. He could be the point guard but he needs to he needs to develop some things to we talked about going into the City and playing basketball Kevin Lynch really plays a city game. I mean, he handles himself like a city ballplayer. He sure does he plays just like he grew up in the city rather than on Bloomington, you know, and he that's probably one of his best qualities to me is that he plays that same type of game and you notice it right away. I'm even as a freshman at his personality really came out on the court fact, I know he'll never forget that Illinois game at Williams Arena and they were in the top 20 and you almost beat him in overtime and Kevin had a breakaway and he just he made a great pass. Unfortunately. Nobody in the court had any idea what's coming. No. That was a great pass by. Oh, yeah, you look back maybe should have shot it but it's very past but he was being you know, he's you could tell right there that he had the awareness of where other people were on the court. He sure does he does he couldn't could expect Willie burden to think he's gonna pass in that situation, but you could see that even with a bad play like that. Kevin show the potential being an awfully good basketball player. Yep. I don't have helped him or not, but it probably helped him but you know the years he played a Jefferson they're always pretty deep pretty balanced and you know, they never the kind of school to rely on one guy to carry the load. So if you just look at his stats you can see This guy's a division one ball player, but he never was a low-scoring conference in a lake conference. He never really had to dominate a game. He never had to I figured both helped him and hurt him. I think the planet Jefferson helped him develop outstanding team oriented skills, you know good passer makes his open shots plays good defense boxes out. But at the same time they played so slow in such a half-court game and he's he's real hesitant about pushing the ball up the floor and that's what's holding them back is a point guard he needs to get the ball and go, you know, there should be no thinking about you get the ball you turn you try and score as quick as you can and that's what coach Haskins wants me to do, but he's always been so conditioned to pull it up and go down and work it work it work it that he doesn't like to push it up the court so he'll learn that and you know, he's it's common but it's gonna take time. Yeah, it does but fresh water for but you clearly he's gonna have three interesting years, I think so. Yeah, he's got a good future ahead of him. Two two seven six thousand our phone number on sport folio. Our lines are open. If you have a question for Tim Hansen former go for basketball player 2276 thousand we gotta get this down for the Cuffed him because this is going to be a standard trivia question in years to come who is the rest of the Iron 5 there was you it was John chassis. There was red Gaffney mark.wilson mark.wilson as Freddie was old Calvin Smith and Calvin Smith. And then Dave Holmgren was the only scholarship player besides the five that was on the those on the roster and then we filled in with a to walk ons and for football players at and wound up changing Roselle Richardson's entire life when he sprained his ankle playing with you already broke it playing with you guys. I think that turned him into a tournament of a fallback. Yep. He definitely had a great shot to win at quarterback job that fall off is if he'd been able to practice in the spring. Now you mentioned that they've Holmgren there's a guy that you played with your junior year his senior year at Prior Lake High School as one of the best high school teams, Minnesota's ever seen and he wound up losing in overtime in the region final State the region from Wilmer Wilmer and they had a 7-footer of their own but Dave's a guy who in high school just possessed a tremendous amount. Ability and I guess mostly with him has been a physical problem just degenerative needs over the years but he's I felt bad for him for five years. He just never had the chance to to really do anything and it must have been very frustrating for him. He had a real tough career in his physically. He's he's really in tough shape. You know, he's I mean you're talking about a kid that's going to be lucky 20 years down the road if he can walk without any pain. He said that kind of problem with his knees and for him to play even practice three days in a row was just a chore and he'd usually play it and take a day off and it's hard to improve doing that for five years. You got to play every day and and Dave just couldn't compete every day at the college level and know it hurt him and hurt us because he definitely did have some skills and the you know, the coaches always had praise for him the Dutcher and Haskins both for his effort, you know that he put everything he had into it. But boy they just by the time his knees got ground down there just wasn't much left to put in on there wasn't go back to the phones for Tom Hanson here on sport folio at 2276 thousand. Yeah, we'll go to st. Paul. I dug. I (00:45:19) have a couple questions for both of you. I was wondering whether you watch the state tournament and particularly interested in what you thought of a couple of players for dealer sell the senior Brian forest in the junior Tom Courtenay. They look like two players who can might be able to play division one ball and help somebody (00:45:40) we'll go ahead and take that one first. I mean they'll have you asked your other question. I got to admit I saw almost none of the boys tournament this year. Tim saw I saw a side deal with sell play and I forget the little point guards name with a DLS shaved in his head that the other kid you're (00:45:52) talking about the junior. (00:45:54) He's he impressed me a lot. I thought he was a pretty good little player and and force was a talented player and I agree that that Force could play division one somewhere. I didn't really seem shoot the ball from outside that (00:46:05) much. Yeah. Well Chris with the way they played he didn't need to shoot that much from outside, but he did make a number of three-pointers. I (00:46:12) think he's definitely got the athletic ability. And I don't know is he is he is he being looked at (00:46:17) or well, that's what I was wondering too it. I he seems like he Had he could do everything. I mean he was he made more steel than anybody jump and he was making rebound all over the place. He passed he looks like, you know, Kevin Lynch type of passer and he's got great speed and you know, he just looked like an all-over in 642 which isn't as big as Kevin but he's just looked like an all-around really talented player and I was wondering why I haven't been hearing about anybody recruiting them (00:46:49) core size alone. Just the three inches between 62 and like the 652 Kevin Lynch is when you get to the division one level that winds up making a big big difference we can really jump. Yeah. I think he that's that's the thing. I think that'll hold him back from the upper the upper echelons of division one, but I definitely only these only 62 and he's more of a two guard and and like in the Big Ten all the number two guards are six five or six six, but I think he can definitely play it at a lot of division one (00:47:13) schools. I know that I noticed they said in the paper that is that the former dealer cell cultures not coaching at Tulsa. So I suppose there might be a pipeline going on there but (00:47:22) lips There is down there too. Yeah, an (00:47:24) extra 200. The other question I had was I was wondering about Eric Wilson. What do you think of his potential for the (00:47:31) Gophers are it's got unlimited potential six foot eleven. He's got long arms. He runs the court. He jumps fairly. Well, he's very quick and he's got a great head for the game. But all that potential is going to go to waste if he doesn't gained about 50 pounds (00:47:43) reminded me a lot of our remember. We're seeing Michael Thompson as a freshman he looked so, I mean, he looked his also skinny, and and that had that same look you could see they had that same kind of natural (00:47:54) Talent here. It's just I mean, he's a great passer and he's got all the skills, but he just can't you know, you can't get inside and you can't get inside the lane. It's just too weak when he literally doesn't even weigh 200 pounds now, he's 11. You think he's lying about 290 Pounds a night even at 2:15 or 220. I think he could be a quality player. You know Brad sellers is only 220 pounds. He's a 611 7-foot player. So I think Eric's got a good future and I don't think it's going to be next year and it might not be the year after that. But you know It's going to take some time for him to gain that weight. He's not a big eater you watching me these real picky eater, but you wonder why doesn't this kid just feed the face all day long. But because he could play in the NBA. I think if he if he pulls that does kind of ball skills. He's a real he really impresses me. But at the same time he doesn't really you watch him near impressed with him, but he doesn't get anything done because he keeps getting pushed so far away from the bass. He's gonna be a good player. I think in two or three years. Thanks for called that. Take care two two seven six thousand our phone number on sport folio visiting with Tim Hanson here for another few minutes. It's eight minutes til one and then after we get the Associated Press News Mark High style be back with the week in review. Go to Bloomington next tyloo. (00:49:03) Hello. I've got two questions. I'd like to have his comments on the role of the quote student athlete at the University. And also if he feels the state term, which format should be changed if that would assist a basketball in (00:49:20) Minnesota good questions. Start with kind of the student athlete I suppose now you've got the benefit of hindsight Tim, but maybe you can buy the things you would change about the the student-athlete life at the you things have been changed since then, we don't take the big tennis change their schedules. You don't take three day road trips anymore used to be my first two years every other week you missed Wednesday, Thursday and Friday regardless. Mmm. And now it's one day road trips you fly in Wednesday at say two o'clock in the afternoon after your classes are over you play your game Thursday. So you missed Thursday's class, but you fly right back and you back in class Friday and that's a big Advantage for the students and one day a classroom setting where instead of three and Saturday, you know, you don't miss any class. You may be flying in the morning or whatever are flying Friday night. So that's that's really helped and they're doing everything they can for the student-athlete at the University Minnesota. You got academic advisors. You got all kinds of study tables set up for you early registration. So you get all the classes that you want at the times that you want to me. There's no excuse. Mmm to me it comes down to the individual and And if you go to class and make any kind of an effort, there's all the help there for you. If you just use the help that they're going to give you. There's no excuse why you can't be a student athlete, you know, there shouldn't be a lot of problems and they've done everything they can for us and now it's up its up to the kids and you yourself are on target to get your degree coming up this fall myself and Kim zuercher and Dave home granola. I'll be done. Maybe not this spring but next fall at the latest and I think will be the first three basketball players to graduate. I believe since like 83-82 was Zebedee Hall. I believe was the last one. No kidding. That's a few years ago. Mark Wilson is still in school. He's real close. He's back in school and back in school and he's real close to his degree and Chassis only about 12 credits away. But he's just hasn't come back yet because he's been playing overseas. So, you know, it's good that that things are back on the right track and get some guys with getting some degrees. Hmm. Now as far as the high school tournament format is changes concerned that there was some talk of coaches proposal early as this year to still have eight double. In 8th Class A schools qualify for the boys tournament and have them play first round games in their own class, then mix and match after that at random and Lead down eventually to one state champion now, apparently, there's been some hang up with some of the Class A coaches in this might not happen next year, but it's still actively on the table. I personally think it's a great idea. I'd like to see that I'd even likes just throw it back into a one class the whole shot. We're just eight teams eight regions that are that's when they'll be like, that's when the Arena's used to sell out and I guess initially I was I was glad because that gives more teams a chance and more players to play in state tournaments, but it's coming now where maybe they need to go back to one class to pick the interest back up and you know, then when an Edgerton comes along and it's a big story now, it wouldn't have been a big story. They've been in class A and they won the class A. I mean, yeah, and I'm convinced that out of any 10-year period that the class a school would win three or four sure mean I've seen several teams come along Lake City back a few years ago, whatever dealer sell my don't want to miss you. I don't have any question about that at all. Yeah. I think they were the best team in the state. It would be it'd be fun to I just because people love the whole David Goliath thing. It'd be fun to get those matchups back in the I think that's interesting right again, and maybe they needed look at that. Maybe of course Williams is future is so much in doubt, but I've got a feeling that just taking them out of Williams Arena hurt both the high school tournament and the Gopher program frankly because you know The Prestige of one used to reflect on the other and you don't the Civic Center would say you don't I love the building but it just doesn't have that basketball atmosphere not really know everything goes on in the Civic Center, you know, you've been in there for a Bruce Springsteen concert, so you don't know it doesn't have any character, uh-huh as a basketball place. Maybe they should move it all back to Williams Arena and throw it all in one class and and make it just like it used to be back to the Future II 276 thousand got time for a couple more questions for Tim Hanson here on sport folio. We got another caller standing by in Bloomington. Hi Frank. Hi there. How are you? Very good. Thanks. (00:53:16) I'm one of the two or four people that wrote your name in on that ballot about a year ago. Sportscaster if (00:53:23) checks in the mail Frank thanks. (00:53:25) There were a couple other guys with thoughts of also question Tim first congratulations and appreciation for sticking it out with the program up to the problems. Thank you. Don't miss the first few minutes of the show of either you two Geniuses pick the the NCAA winter. (00:53:42) Well, I Hanson went on a limb for Kansas and I guess I personally I mean I feel morally that I have to stick with Arizona because I picked him before the tournament but just so you know how smart I am. The rest of my final four was Kentucky, Indiana and North Carolina State so so clearly we've established my credentials as a basketball picker. Yeah. I have been faring too. Well either that's why I pick Kansas so I don't look bad when they (00:54:02) lose. Yeah. Well, thanks much for your programs. Your (00:54:05) enjoy. Appreciate it Frank. Thanks very much a couple of great games coming up this afternoon Duke, Kansas and then Arizona Oklahoma was a little Primetime basketball on Saturday night to keep the TV money flowing in you surprised him that there's not a big 10 team of the final for me. There was talk of the start of the year. We could even have three Big Ten teams in the final four now, there's none. Yeah, I thought there'd be at least one. I thought Purdue had thought they had the road paved. You know, I didn't think there was any reason why they shouldn't get there but I guess they have their problems in postseason and they have a hard time getting everybody playing while at the same time and that's what makes them tough to beat during the regular season is that is that they have enough Talent where if everybody's not playing while they can still win but usually in the postseason you all got to jail together and you got to raise your game a level because Kansas state did you know and they all played well together on that day and beat him. So I thought / dude be in there. I thought it would annoy had a chance to be in there and and Michigan certainly had enough talent to get their Iowa's playing pretty well, but they ran in Arizona. I thought there'd be one or two in there and I'm surprised that there's not but then we had three in the final 16. We just didn't do anything anything from there. Mmm you I guess it's not quite firm yet, but it looks very much. Like they'll be a big 10 postseason tournament next year. What's your feeling about? I'm all for that especially especially for Minnesota, you know, because then your Big Ten Tournament champion would automatically get in then you get For a couple of days and you can sneak in I got A Sneak Eric on the air for a second Eric up in Anoka. How are you? Erica? (00:55:27) Good fine. And I just wanted to tell you I heard you say great games coming on. I just wanted to say that there's a great game on the tube right now. It's happens to be a hockey game and just wanted to make a comment about last night's go for hockey game. Yeah, (00:55:40) are they doing today? By the way, Erica how they doing the day (00:55:42) it's in the first period and no score. Yeah, right and I'm trying to look at that and listen to your wonderful program (00:55:51) flattery will get you everywhere (00:56:13) and wish that it would have been awful if there. With see it. (00:56:22) Thanks for the call Eric. I got to run but I appreciate him and look forward to having you on with Bill James. Next week. Eric has been Cardinals Fan. You know, Tim. She loves to talk to bill you have it all comes down to winning or losing and that's what it takes to make you happy. That's my editorial than that's that's not right. It's just not right Tim. Thanks very much for coming over and good luck in your future of it. Thanks and appreciate it. Wish you all the best thanks to David O'Neill took care of the telephone. So Jeff Walker who is usual did all the technical stuff with a plum and he'll and I'm J.G. Preston next Saturday here on sport folio will talk to baseball writer Bill James. See you then he runs portfolio. You're listening to ksjn 1330 Minneapolis-Saint Paul coming up on one o'clock Dead Ahead. We've got world and national news from the Associated Press. And then after that Mark High state will be along with the week in review here on ksjn 13:30.